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Post by afx on Feb 27, 2019 6:18:01 GMT -8
Picked up this glue bomb example and am in the process of restoring the engine bits. Am I correct in assuming I can use the more common Olsonite Eagle kit for the balance of the other required parts?   |
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Feb 27, 2019 7:10:22 GMT -8
Yes, the difference is the Offy Engine, Engine cover and Tail body work. Might have been easier to use the Olsonite kit and get the Replicas and Miniatures of Maryland Transkit.. since there appears to a lot of Glue on a fragile kit... Chris
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Post by afx on Feb 27, 2019 7:37:04 GMT -8
A lot of glue-nah!! I'm sure they still had a little left in the tube!
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Feb 27, 2019 8:45:47 GMT -8
 for those who have never seen the RM of M Rislone Eagle transkit ... I have this one for a more accurate build of the Rislone #3 Indy Eagle.. Chris |
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Post by afx on Feb 27, 2019 9:19:54 GMT -8
I would appreciate any reference material anyone would care to share about the Turbo Offy engine. Plumbing and wiring information in particular.
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Feb 27, 2019 11:28:58 GMT -8
mb2501.proboards.com/thread/2024/1969-lotus-56b-offy THIS IS THE lOTUS 56B oFFY BUILD i DID SHOWING A TON OF DETAIL THAT CAN BE DONE ON A oFFY ENGINE. nOW AT 22,000 VIEWS tOO!! i ALSO CAN PROVIDE YOU SOME PHOTOS OR CHECK MY FOTKI RESEARCH FILES...dARN cAPS LOCKS sORRY..cHRIS
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Post by 4wheels on Feb 27, 2019 14:15:09 GMT -8
I think when the Rislone kit was current, glue tubes were MUCH larger! From the looks of the rest of the car, I doubt they scraped the chrome before gluing, should pop right apart. If you need any individual parts, let me know, I might have them.
Brian
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Post by afx on Feb 28, 2019 6:06:57 GMT -8
I got the engine apart without breaking anything and stripped the chrome. There is some glue damage however. I'll post some pictures when I get a chance. Anyone have this book? Thinking it might be a good reference source. <iframe width="34.24000000000001" height="28.24000000000001" style="position: absolute; width: 34.24000000000001px; height: 28.24000000000001px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 5px; top: 53px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_6739336" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.24000000000001" height="28.24000000000001" style="position: absolute; width: 34.24px; height: 28.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1631px; top: 53px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_96930457" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.24000000000001" height="28.24000000000001" style="position: absolute; width: 34.24px; height: 28.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 5px; top: 1386px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_72329751" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.24000000000001" height="28.24000000000001" style="position: absolute; width: 34.24px; height: 28.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1631px; top: 1386px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_40532936" scrolling="no"></iframe>  |
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Feb 28, 2019 6:34:42 GMT -8
The Offy engine came in several displacements, and even a few manufacturers, like Drake and Meyer. BY the time they were introduced to being used as stressed members in the rear engine cars they were ( and dont quote me) 163cid. In the front engine cars they were as big or bigger than 255cid. so The front engine engines are a bit different. Here is the link to my OFFY album that you will find most useful. When my Dad worked for Dan Gurney at AAR his main job was building the Offy Engines and building the top end for the race engines. The Offy design is very unique with there being no cylinder heads, only what I call a Top end and a lower end. , as in the Lotus 56b the two can be reversed depending on the chassis. using a north/south description, the Top end could be installed either way and the intake & exhaust ports could be built either left or right. most rear engine and turbo applications were done using the right configuration for the intake thus allowing the Turbo set to have enough room ( longer turbo/intake pipes ) and a lower height. My Dad met Dan on the dragstrips and circle tracks of So Cal and Bakersfield in the 50's where he was known for his Riley head work and Offy top end work, He had a reputation for extracting the maximum horsepower from these 4 cylinder engines. When we later moved to Santa Ana it was natural that he would get involved with the New AAR Team including then Carroll Shelby and Dan Gurney. link public.fotki.com/pmodwrks/race-car-and-genera/offy/ The Offy book is OK but i think you will find what you need in my album or the Lotus 56b Offy build. Let me know if you need info or parts , I have several Rislone junkers that I can get parts from. Chris |
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Post by afx on Feb 28, 2019 11:23:26 GMT -8
Taking a flyer on the book. Found a "like new" copy on ebay for under $20 including delivery.
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Post by tatocorvette on Mar 1, 2019 4:25:06 GMT -8
Following this one. Reference material is like money: There is no such thing as too much of it.  One of my all time best builds was a Gurney Eagle I did about a decade ago. I need to post that one in this board. Thanks, Ismael |
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Post by afx on Mar 1, 2019 5:22:08 GMT -8
I agree Ismael - I have a good size reference library and add to it when I can. You should definitely post your Gurney Eagle, would love to see it.
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Post by robhart on Mar 1, 2019 18:19:23 GMT -8
I have that book. I think it is the best single source reference on the Offy engines. It was my primary reference when i built my Sunoco Eagle model.
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Post by afx on Mar 2, 2019 4:46:17 GMT -8
Thanks for the feedback on the book Rob. Here are the engine parts, stripped and cleaned up. I've already started adding some mounting pins.  |
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Post by afx on Mar 27, 2019 16:14:54 GMT -8
Read in the "Offenhauser" book Harry Miller (Offenhauser worked for Miller for several years) in 1929 was charging $10,000 for his 91 rear drive race cars and $15,000 for the front drive version. By comparison a '29 Ford was selling new for under $500! www.grandprixhistory.org/miller.htm |
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