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Post by tatocorvette on Mar 19, 2019 7:37:32 GMT -8
Hi Bill,
Glad to hear it is progressing. Sounds like a lot of work and you are on top of it!
Thanks, Ismael
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Post by tatocorvette on Mar 19, 2019 8:53:46 GMT -8
LOL I can come up with a million jokes about that. If somebody calls me a grumpy old man I reply "WHO ARE YOU CALLING OLD?" As for the pictures, if I can be of any help please let me know. I have even scanned prints for other modelers and mail the prints back. Thanks, Ismael
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Post by Joel_W on Mar 19, 2019 15:57:42 GMT -8
Bill, Sounds like you're making excellent progress. Everyone works at their own pace. And my pace just keeps on getting slower and slower. Looking forward to the time when you post your final build pictures. Just keep the verbal updates coming.
Joel
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Post by garydavis on Mar 25, 2019 15:58:16 GMT -8
Hey Bill...man...it's good to hear from you. It really sounds like you've got a whole boat load of things accomplished since the last time we talked. Sounds really good too!!! Man...that 16 pounder looks like He/She could eat a pound or two...LOL Well my friend...keep us updated when you can...
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Post by flashman on Mar 28, 2019 12:57:58 GMT -8
The engine used in the car was a de-stroked 390 built by Traco in LA. Single Holley 4bbl. Engine painted light gray. Headers white. Aluminum radiator. Engine compartment sides gloss black. Blue paint on body with Roy Woods is darker than Sunoco blue used when the car was in Penske's hands. Richard, you're just the man I want to 'see'!
I have the old AMT (Johan moldings) 1971 Penske Javelin kit on my bench that I need to start on for the "Trans-Am/GTO" challenge in our car model club contest in November. Before I start, I've been trying to find out whether the '71 Penske car's engine was grey or the AMC engine blue. The photo you posted of the '72 Woods car shows grey, and the '71 Penske car that I photographed at Road America last July (according to the placard next to the car in the paddock) also had the grey engine (one of the RWR cars was also there with 1972 markings). But I wasn't sure if that was period correct for that car in 1971. So far my google searches have not come up with any period pics where I could see the engine color, and Dave Freidman's Trans-Am book that I have doesn't help.
Do you know whether it was grey or blue in '71? I'm fine with either one, but I didn't want to get told by another club member "oh, you got the engine color wrong" without more of an authority, And that looks like being you!
Cameron
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 19, 2019 4:53:58 GMT -8
Bill, Looking forward to your update for sure. I looked at those Hurst shifters, and they do look good. The price is a little scary for my budget limitations these days.
Joel
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Apr 19, 2019 5:50:51 GMT -8
Cant wait to see Your progress, Chin Up My Friend and keep the Glue Flowing... Chris
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Post by tatocorvette on Apr 19, 2019 17:46:56 GMT -8
Looking forward to see how it is going. Those shifters look really good!
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Post by tatocorvette on Apr 20, 2019 3:18:21 GMT -8
Hi Bill, I can help with the pictures. If you want, send me a private message with the details and we will go from there. I'm out of town for the holiday but I'm checking the forum on my phone. Thanks, Ismael
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 23, 2019 13:27:05 GMT -8
Bill, I need to resize all my pictures before I upload them to Image Shack as my Nikon D7500 resolution is way over the max size without having to use sliders. I've been using the same program for years on end: Pixresizer ver. 2.08: bluefive.pairsite.com/ I reduce all my images to 1280 X 1024 max. I let the program auto figure out the other dimension as I just plug in the longest side as 1280. Once resized, I upload them to ImageShack my 3rd party hosting site. Hope that his helps. Joel
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Post by Ben_B on Apr 25, 2019 7:04:54 GMT -8
I have a whole shelf-full of projects like that. That's why I switched into cars for a while. FWIW, the mojo to break out an old project and chip away at it does usually eventually come back. What are you working on in the meantime?
Ben
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 26, 2019 5:58:10 GMT -8
I just wanted to clarify something if anybody was actually following this adventure in 30+ yr. old brittle styrene. I just shut this project down, in order to work on another that hopefully will recharge my battery....Thanks You Guys for watching and sticking through my lack of info project building. Bill, Nothing wrong with that. Better to work on something else till your mojo levels are back up, then continue to work on a build that you're just not into right now. That causes errors, and drop in one's standards. I'm looking forward to when you pick it up again. Joel
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Post by Ben_B on Apr 26, 2019 6:38:27 GMT -8
Cool project! That yellow will really stand out on your display shelf. I look forward to seeing how it builds.
Ben
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Post by swede70 on Feb 23, 2020 14:24:36 GMT -8
... I've been trying to find out whether the '71 Penske car's engine was grey or the AMC engine blue. The photo you posted of the '72 Woods car shows grey, and the '71 Penske car that I photographed at Road America last July (according to the placard next to the car in the paddock) also had the grey engine (one of the RWR cars was also there with 1972 markings). But I wasn't sure if that was period correct for that car in 1971. So far my google searches have not come up with any period pics where I could see the engine color, and Dave Freidman's Trans-Am book that I have doesn't help.
Do you know whether it was grey or blue in '71?... I don't know if my line of reasoning will help, although it's intended to given I'll tackle my own Jo-Han-based (like we have options!) '71 Penske Javelin in time. Come the '71 Trans-Am season, Roy Wood Racing/American Racing Associates was the factory-blessed independent team with the visually updated '70 Penske cars, with Penske being the proverbial tip of the spear (pun intended) running but a single car. Just as an aside, it's my understanding that Penske (or AMC) afforded RWR/ARA a deal that among other things required that the RWR/ARA Javelin racers to be also be painted red, white and blue - a condition RWR/ARA would not meet. Anyhow, a deal was penned and the '70 Penske cars would be transformed into slightly shortened '71's by Roy Woods. In F1 racing it isn't uncommon to find the works team pushing the envelope with regards to the engine specification, expressly designed to translate into advantage on-track, but which also may impact the overall reliability of the package for introducing unknown and untested elements. An engine lease deal to a second-string team usually reflects a specification from the previous season that is developmentally frozen, but also proven and hopefully - dead reliable. I suspect Traco altered the color of the engines prepared for RWR/ARA in '71 so as to not confuse anyone opening a crate trackside or when the engines were returned to Traco for servicing and rebuilding. Other things to consider is that the F5000 effort depicts a AMC engine in the expected very light gray, as do all photos of the '72 and '73 Penske NASCAR Matadors. As events turned out in '71, the reliability promised for altering series rules to allow the use of dry sump oiling systems didn't exactly afford RWR/ARA what it bargained for. I've read of five engine failures having been suffered before the end of the season, and a reluctance on the part of the team to continue participating if reliability couldn't be assured: i.e. see period newsprint copies of Competition Press & AUTOWEEK relating as much. Eventually George Follmer would score a win for the team following the formal withdrawal of Bud Moore from the series and the west coast race dates in particular, while but for some carburetor hiccups at one event, Penske had admirable reliability with their engines across the season that was. I do have a few photos of the '71 Penske Javelins, most of which others will have or are known. Indeed - it's frustrating that the Penske Javelin in '71 spec. was often photographed from some distance away when the hood was up. Some parts were polished or anodized in blue and red; i.e. I'm thinking rocker arms, etc., hence the single car effort had almost overprepared Sox & Martin quality to it that didn't underplay the overdog aspect to having the only full-factory team running in the series. If anyone would like a picture flood, PM me and I'll do what I can. For pouring over unconventional sources across FaceBook in particular, I'll try to confirm the '72 RWR engine color as run in-period as well. Thanks... Mike K./Swede70
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