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Post by jchrisf on Apr 18, 2020 8:32:37 GMT -8
Automotive paint for models? Scalefinishes.com has been my only source for over a decade. Tell him I sent you. I just checked them out Ismael and they have great prices.. Especially the sale colors and they come in 2oz. Which clear do you use and do you get their primers?
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Post by tatocorvette on Apr 18, 2020 9:04:08 GMT -8
I'm old school. I use their single stage clear. Tried 2K and did not like it. For primer I use Plastikote T235 but it has been discontinued for years now (WARNING: They now use the same name on enamel primer which is total crap). I'm now down to my last 4 cans so I guess I'll start using Scalefinishes primer soon.
Thanks,
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 18, 2020 10:20:57 GMT -8
Chris, For Gloss I only use Mr. Color C46 for a lacquer base. If you can find a resource here in the states for their enamel based clears, I'd jump on them for sure.
I've tried Tamiya's Acrylic glosses and just never could get a really deep gloss shine no matter how I thinned and applied them.
The 2K gloss finishes are the top of the line these days. Expensive but almost fool proof. Watch Paul's video on using them in his Subaru build series. Protection is an absolute must.
Joel
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 18, 2020 10:23:33 GMT -8
I'm old school. I use their single stage clear. Tried 2K and did not like it. For primer I use Plastikote T235 but it has been discontinued for years now (WARNING: They now use the same name on enamel primer which is total crap). I'm now down to my last 4 cans so I guess I'll start using Scalefinishes primer soon. Thanks, Ismael, so you use their single stage clear. That's interesting as they state it's only for small jobs, not full bodies. If you use them, that's good enough for me to try. But I wonder why they state that? Joel
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 18, 2020 10:26:09 GMT -8
Automotive paint for models? Scalefinishes.com has been my only source for over a decade. Tell him I sent you. Ismael, Ben and I figured out that they were bought by MCW paints. The old site is a million times better then the new site which he never finished. Joel
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Post by jchrisf on Apr 18, 2020 10:37:10 GMT -8
Chris, For Gloss I only use Mr. Color C46 for a lacquer base. If you can find a resource here in the states for their enamel based clears, I'd jump on them for sure. I've tried Tamiya's Acrylic glosses and just never could get a really deep gloss shine no matter how I thinned and applied them. The 2K gloss finishes are the top of the line these days. Expensive but almost fool proof. Watch Paul's video on using them in his Subaru build series. Protection is an absolute must. Joel Joel Joel, I have four bottles of Mr Color 46. I bought it from scalehobbyist. What is their enamel based clears? I see people use Mr. Super Clear on YT all the time but I thought it was acrylic. Haven't been able to find anything but Mr Hobby Lacquers. I've seen Paul's vids on the 2K and it looks awesome.. I'm just scared of it especially since I paint inside. I'd have to have a Pace Paint Booth (which I am considering) before I'd try it. I'm hoping to get perfect results without it though. Like you said if what Ismael is using is good enough for him.. well in my case it is more than good enough for me. I did find a cheap 2K to try if I ever do it though.. in a size like Paul used to use. I guess he has switched to Gravity 2K now. Here's the Link only I'd get it in Medium
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 18, 2020 11:58:07 GMT -8
Chris, For Gloss I only use Mr. Color C46 for a lacquer base. If you can find a resource here in the states for their enamel based clears, I'd jump on them for sure. I've tried Tamiya's Acrylic glosses and just never could get a really deep gloss shine no matter how I thinned and applied them. The 2K gloss finishes are the top of the line these days. Expensive but almost fool proof. Watch Paul's video on using them in his Subaru build series. Protection is an absolute must. Joel Joel Joel, I have four bottles of Mr Color 46. I bought it from scalehobbyist. What is their enamel based clears? I see people use Mr. Super Clear on YT all the time but I thought it was acrylic. Haven't been able to find anything but Mr Hobby Lacquers. I've seen Paul's vids on the 2K and it looks awesome.. I'm just scared of it especially since I paint inside. I'd have to have a Pace Paint Booth (which I am considering) before I'd try it. I'm hoping to get perfect results without it though. Like you said if what Ismael is using is good enough for him.. well in my case it is more than good enough for me. I did find a cheap 2K to try if I ever do it though.. in a size like Paul used to use. I guess he has switched to Gravity 2K now. Here's the Link only I'd get it in MediumChris, Super Clear III seems to be what most European Modelers use. It's enamel based, but dries rather quickly. And the results are amazing. Sprue brothers carries the rattle can, but it's always out of stock. They do make it in a regular 10 mil bottle, but I'd have to order it from Japan, and it just doesn't pay. I must have bought a bottle of the Zero 1K several years ago and totally forgot about it, as I just found it looking for the few odds and ends of clears that I still have. What I really like about it, is that it's also pre-thinned with their secret "Hot Sauce". Joel
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Post by jchrisf on Apr 18, 2020 12:42:48 GMT -8
Joel, I have four bottles of Mr Color 46. I bought it from scalehobbyist. What is their enamel based clears? I see people use Mr. Super Clear on YT all the time but I thought it was acrylic. Haven't been able to find anything but Mr Hobby Lacquers. I've seen Paul's vids on the 2K and it looks awesome.. I'm just scared of it especially since I paint inside. I'd have to have a Pace Paint Booth (which I am considering) before I'd try it. I'm hoping to get perfect results without it though. Like you said if what Ismael is using is good enough for him.. well in my case it is more than good enough for me. I did find a cheap 2K to try if I ever do it though.. in a size like Paul used to use. I guess he has switched to Gravity 2K now. Here's the Link only I'd get it in MediumChris, Super Clear III seems to be what most European Modelers use. It's enamel based, but dries rather quickly. And the results are amazing. Sprue brothers carries the rattle can, but it's always out of stock. They do make it in a regular 10 mil bottle, but I'd have to order it from Japan, and it just doesn't pay. I must have bought a bottle of the Zero 1K several years ago and totally forgot about it, as I just found it looking for the few odds and ends of clears that I still have. What I really like about it, is that it's also pre-thinned with their secret "Hot Sauce". Joel Joel, have you tried to find it on eBay? When you say it is prethinned with their secret Hot Sauce is that the Zero or the Mr Hobby? What is it you like about Mr Hobby? I'm going to be using Tamiya TS-13 decanted and I've heard it can eat decals. I've used it straight out of the can before without an issue but I'll be able to go lighter with the coats with the AB. Have you ever used it?
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 18, 2020 13:43:55 GMT -8
Chris, their Hot Sauce was just my way of saying the correct manufacture's own thinner. I was referring to Zero 1K Gloss clearcoat. What I really like about Mr. Color is that the Gloss clear is a true lacquer, thins perfectly with their # 400 leveler thinner, and it's available almost everywhere. What I don't like is that it only comes in 10ml bottles, so I buy it 6 bottles at a time and it costs more that way.
Tamiya TS-13 is a rattle can. So when you decant it, you're paying for the can, and the propellant, but not needing either of them. Plus decanting requires letting it gas off for quite some time. Tamiya does make a full range of Lacquer based paints as well as a full range of enamel paints, but so far they haven't brought them into the USA due to labeling issues. You can buy them from Spot models and HLJ.
I rarely do any shopping on ebay these days as the prices are truly insane. Kits currently in online stores like HLJ and Spot are listed for a lot more plus way to much for shipping. When I'm looking for a discontinued or out of date model, I post it here, and I've always gotten one in perfect condition.
Joel
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Post by ibuildscalemodels on Apr 18, 2020 13:53:32 GMT -8
Joel, I have four bottles of Mr Color 46. I bought it from scalehobbyist. What is their enamel based clears? I see people use Mr. Super Clear on YT all the time but I thought it was acrylic. Haven't been able to find anything but Mr Hobby Lacquers. I've seen Paul's vids on the 2K and it looks awesome.. I'm just scared of it especially since I paint inside. I'd have to have a Pace Paint Booth (which I am considering) before I'd try it. I'm hoping to get perfect results without it though. Like you said if what Ismael is using is good enough for him.. well in my case it is more than good enough for me. I did find a cheap 2K to try if I ever do it though.. in a size like Paul used to use. I guess he has switched to Gravity 2K now. Here's the Link only I'd get it in MediumChris, Super Clear III seems to be what most European Modelers use. It's enamel based, but dries rather quickly. And the results are amazing. Sprue brothers carries the rattle can, but it's always out of stock. They do make it in a regular 10 mil bottle, but I'd have to order it from Japan, and it just doesn't pay. I must have bought a bottle of the Zero 1K several years ago and totally forgot about it, as I just found it looking for the few odds and ends of clears that I still have. What I really like about it, is that it's also pre-thinned with their secret "Hot Sauce". Joel Guys, I have a distributor that specializes in Mr. Hobby products. Let me know if you want them to get in contact with your local hobby store so they can carry it. I luckily have infinite supply of this line. Perks of having a distributor as a club sponsor. Let me know.
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Post by Joel_W on Apr 18, 2020 15:31:27 GMT -8
ibuildscalemodels,
Great offer. It's really appreciated. But all but one of my LHS have closed years ago. The only one that's open really isn't that local, and is stuffed to the gills with RC stuff. Plenty of models from years past. The place is so jammed that you can't walk down the few isles if there is someone else in it.
What I keep on looking for is a really good online resource that carries the type of car models that we build, not just AMT, MPC, Revell, etc.
Joel
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Post by arcticwolf on Apr 18, 2020 17:21:18 GMT -8
Joel, I have 16 of the 1/12th scale kits. 13 of them came from Japan. Nice people, never a problem, better prices, fair shipping costs and up until recently 2-3 week delivery. What more could you ask for?
Moto Hobby is my favorite but the others are good too.
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Post by Ben_B on Apr 19, 2020 2:21:03 GMT -8
I'm able to get most of my Mr Color products from Sprue Brothers. I've also bought paint and kits from Amazon and eBay. If you shop around, there are still deals to be had on both sites.
Joel, I haven't found any really good sources for our types of models, other than Spot Model, Hiroboy, and BNA Model World. I regularly get good deals from Japanese shops on eBay, often with free shipping, if you don't mind waiting a month for your order. HobbyLink Japan has some good prices, too.
For clear coats, I haven't had any trouble with decanted TS-13. Just spray it on in light coats. A guy in my local club uses a 1" foam brush to apply Future Floor Polish to his car models. They look absolutely amazing. The finish is comparable to those some of the other guys have spent hours polishing and waxing the old fashioned way. He doesn't polish anything afterwards. He just brushes it on and then lets the body sit under a cover for a couple of days. The first time he showed one of his Futured car bodies, we thought he was playing a joke on us. The finish was that good. I'm planning to try it on an old Monogram TR-7 I've been tinkering with. I'll report back if/when I get around to it.
Ben
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Post by jchrisf on Apr 19, 2020 5:29:09 GMT -8
Chris, their Hot Sauce was just my way of saying the correct manufacture's own thinner. I was referring to Zero 1K Gloss clearcoat. What I really like about Mr. Color is that the Gloss clear is a true lacquer, thins perfectly with their # 400 leveler thinner, and it's available almost everywhere. What I don't like is that it only comes in 10ml bottles, so I buy it 6 bottles at a time and it costs more that way. Tamiya TS-13 is a rattle can. So when you decant it, you're paying for the can, and the propellant, but not needing either of them. Plus decanting requires letting it gas off for quite some time. Tamiya does make a full range of Lacquer based paints as well as a full range of enamel paints, but so far they haven't brought them into the USA due to labeling issues. You can buy them from Spot models and HLJ. I rarely do any shopping on ebay these days as the prices are truly insane. Kits currently in online stores like HLJ and Spot are listed for a lot more plus way to much for shipping. When I'm looking for a discontinued or out of date model, I post it here, and I've always gotten one in perfect condition. Joel I get Mr Color lacquers at scalehobbyist for a great price and they thin down quiet a bit. I've figured out that it is cheaper to use Mr. Hobby that to decant Tamiya Sprays. I've heard that some time soon Tamiya will have their bottled lacquers available in the US. I get Mr Color for about $2.50 a bottle. Scalehobbyist has a default $8 shipping charge but it didn't increase as I added much more to my order. What are the shipping charges at Spot Models?
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Post by jchrisf on Apr 19, 2020 5:29:38 GMT -8
Chris, Super Clear III seems to be what most European Modelers use. It's enamel based, but dries rather quickly. And the results are amazing. Sprue brothers carries the rattle can, but it's always out of stock. They do make it in a regular 10 mil bottle, but I'd have to order it from Japan, and it just doesn't pay. I must have bought a bottle of the Zero 1K several years ago and totally forgot about it, as I just found it looking for the few odds and ends of clears that I still have. What I really like about it, is that it's also pre-thinned with their secret "Hot Sauce". Joel Guys, I have a distributor that specializes in Mr. Hobby products. Let me know if you want them to get in contact with your local hobby store so they can carry it. I luckily have infinite supply of this line. Perks of having a distributor as a club sponsor. Let me know. We don't have a hobby shop around here anymore. I have to do all my business online.
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