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Post by Joel_W on Jul 6, 2020 12:24:29 GMT -8
One of our former list members and a friend of mine, William "Bill" Brown passed away on June 12 after a very long battle with Cancer. While Bill's time with us was rather short, we were treated to his exceptional modeling abilities especially with highly detailed 1/25th scale Trans Am cars. I believe that his last build that he posted here was his Chevy Cruze  Joel |
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Post by Ben_B on Jul 6, 2020 12:32:00 GMT -8
Sorry to hear that. My condolences to his family.
Ben
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Post by tatocorvette on Jul 6, 2020 13:46:00 GMT -8
So sad to hear that! I kept communication with him from time to time. He was working an Olds Aurora race car.
He will be missed!
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Post by mike_t on Jul 6, 2020 14:00:41 GMT -8
Sad news, Joel. My condolences.
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Post by arcticwolf on Jul 6, 2020 18:50:13 GMT -8
I am so sorry to hear that news. Bill seemed like a very good guy, when he found out I own a real Aurora he sent me updates and photos of his project, he even mailed me a magazine article about the Trans Am car. And then I didn't hear from him. Sad news, RIP buddy.
Thanks for letting us know, Joel.
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Post by afx on Jul 7, 2020 2:21:46 GMT -8
Godspeed Bill with my condolences to you Joel and his family.
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Post by mustang1989 on Jul 7, 2020 4:43:58 GMT -8
Sorry to hear about this and then again for your loss Joel.
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Post by Joel_W on Jul 7, 2020 7:45:38 GMT -8
Thanks guys. I'll pass along all the condolences to Marcy, his wife.
I was wondering what had happened to him as we always exchanged a email or two every few weeks, generally more. Only his Cancer treatments often kept him from emailing and modeling. Funny thing is that Bill was often more concerned about our approval of his builds so that any little issue he saw in a picture drove him to the point of having that picture deleted, then realizing just how good of a modeler he was.
Joel
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 8:32:51 GMT -8
This is very sad news Joel, my condolences go out to both you and to Bill's family members as they struggle I'm sure with this loss. I didn't know him unfortunately but he looked from your photo to be a very skilled builder indeed. May he rest in peace.
I hear so many modelers who are leaving us due to cancer, I just read that Colin Fraser lost a long battle with Cancer this year as well. I really hope we are not doing this to ourselves by exposing ourselves to the harmful things we do as we pursue our passion. I know for myself I have made the decision to take a break from the hobby once I complete my current 2 builds as I know the cough I have developed is certainly from the amount of time I spend exposed to the chemicals that we must use to create our models.
Such a struggle.
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Post by 2whl on Jul 7, 2020 10:56:35 GMT -8
RIP Bill. Have fun in that great hobby shop in the sky.
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Post by Joel_W on Jul 7, 2020 11:10:39 GMT -8
Adrian,
I've thought about the same thing many times as I model for hours in my modeling room with the window always closed. I air brush always using my paint booth that's vented directly outside, and I always wear a respirator (which really needs some new filters). About half of my hand painting is with lacquers or Acrylic Lacquers, and the Thinners do get to me after a while as I'm literally inches from the point of painting. Air Brush cleaning is also a concern so I now wear my respirator for 75%% of the cleaning. But the glues all have toxic gases to some degree. Even the putties I use are lacquer based.
One thing I've started doing is limiting my modeling sessions to about 2 to 3 hours max. Paint sessions no matter how long or short are it for the day. But being retired I can model just about everyday, especially during the winter months.
I do remember when sniffing glue was a quick high for kids, so Testors, Revell, etc came out with glues that didn't contain lacquers or any chemicals that would give a kid (or us) a high. Of course those glues were next to useless as a bonding agent, but so be it.
I can't see myself wearing a respirator during a none air brush build session as it's not exactly comfortable, nor allows me to get as close as I need to be. Anyone got some ideas how we might better protect ourselves moving forward?
Joel
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 12:24:33 GMT -8
Adrian, I've thought about the same thing many times as I model for hours in my modeling room with the window always closed. I air brush always using my paint booth that's vented directly outside, and I always wear a respirator (which really needs some new filters). About half of my hand painting is with lacquers or Acrylic Lacquers, and the Thinners do get to me after a while as I'm literally inches from the point of painting. Air Brush cleaning is also a concern so I now wear my respirator for 75%% of the cleaning. But the glues all have toxic gases to some degree. Even the putties I use are lacquer based. One thing I've started doing is limiting my modeling sessions to about 2 to 3 hours max. Paint sessions no matter how long or short are it for the day. But being retired I can model just about everyday, especially during the winter months. I do remember when sniffing glue was a quick high for kids, so Testors, Revell, etc came out with glues that didn't contain lacquers or any chemicals that would give a kid (or us) a high. Of course those glues were next to useless as a bonding agent, but so be it. I can't see myself wearing a respirator during a none air brush build session as it's not exactly comfortable, nor allows me to get as close as I need to be. Anyone got some ideas how we might better protect ourselves moving forward? Joel
Honestly it saddens me to think that I won't build all the models I have in my head to build, but at the end of the day I don't won't to get Cancer, that's the bottom line really, period.
I will finish my Mears and Tracy builds this week likely, and then I have to hang it up for awhile, for a long while, possibly for good. The only positive that is keeping my spirits up right now is that I got to do the 2 builds I'm doing now, and the way I think they may have turned out, hopefully, we will see what you guys all think. Joel I think that they just might be my 2 personal best builds to date, and if that is the case, then what better way to say goodbye?  |
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Post by 65slotcar on Jul 7, 2020 13:40:18 GMT -8
Very sad news. my condolences to friends and family. RIP Bill
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Post by Art on Jul 7, 2020 14:43:18 GMT -8
So sorry to hear this. RIP Bill.
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Jul 7, 2020 16:52:40 GMT -8
Wow , this hit me like a Ton O' Bricks. Bill and I had an interesting relationship. He was suffering from depression brought on by his his long battle with Cancer, he would write me almost daily telling me that he was leaving because " The Guys on the Forum are only interested in Porsche"s and Ferrari's . I had the hardest time convincing him that wasnt the truth , we were all only interested in sharing our builds, methods and experience. Bill was beyond a Great modeler, his Chevy Cruise was a masterpiece, the skill he showed us during his build was more important than where the real race car came from. He was a stickler on Photos and would have me delete his pic's and posts on a regular basis because he didnt feel they were up to snuff. I reassured him on a daily basis and tried to make him understand how important he was to all of Us. Finally he asked me to delete all of his posts because, that was it and he was leaving, I did what he asked , although You will find many under the name "Deleted" We had so many discussions about Technique and How a certain result was achieved, I learned a lot from Bill about Model Building and Life, after my stroke in Dec. I missed those talks as I found him stimulating and despite his lack of confidence, always a True World Class modeler. My Condolences go out to his family and others who were a big part of his life. R.I.P. Bill Brown You are already Missed. Chris
I would like to have anyone who knows how to contact Bill's Family to forward this thread, so they will know just how special Bill was to all of us.
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