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Post by arcticwolf on Aug 16, 2021 11:11:22 GMT -8
World class seat belts man. WOW
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Post by adrian29341 on Aug 16, 2021 12:31:00 GMT -8
They sure didn't believe in protecting the driver's feet and legs back in 1995, did they? No sir - safety was still very much in it's infantry stages being spear headed by Dr. Olvy - if you want an eye opening read check out his book "Rapid Response' Amazing stuff.
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Post by adrian29341 on Aug 16, 2021 12:31:25 GMT -8
World class seat belts man. WOW Thank you sir - wasn't easy lol
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Post by Joel_W on Aug 17, 2021 16:08:22 GMT -8
Adrian, They sure don't look easy. I have enough trouble with the simpler harness kits out there.
Joel
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Post by arcticwolf on Aug 17, 2021 21:13:14 GMT -8
Adrian, They sure don't look easy. I have enough trouble with the simpler harness kits out there. Joel I lean towards the simple ones myself. They're called decals.
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Post by Joel_W on Aug 18, 2021 5:23:38 GMT -8
Paul, Don't laugh, but if you take a good look at the last few of my builds, all the seat harnesses are decals, and Tamiya's are by far the best. I even bought a few sheets from Indy Cals. I just can't see struggling to build those Harnesses, then once installed and the Tin Top is finished, you can't see them unless you use a Pen flash light and get your nose right up to the window.
joel
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Post by Ben_B on Aug 18, 2021 5:35:46 GMT -8
Right there with you, Joel! I ran out of photo etched hardware and decal belts are looking better and better. I’ve been taking the middle ground, lately, with tape belts and hardware-shaped bits of thick foil. Nobody can see them anyway once the model is finished. A friend of mine just cuts out the decal belts and paints the edges of the paper with a matching color and then glues them to the seat to give them a more 3-D look.
Ben
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Post by Joel_W on Aug 18, 2021 5:57:01 GMT -8
Ben, I've stock piled seat belt PE and simple sets but threading the ribbon through those little slots is a killer for me. I've tried the cutting out of the harness assemblies but I just never got it looking good enough, with paper fibers and miss cuts. How do you go about doing it so it looks good once you're finished with the cutting part?
Joel
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Post by arcticwolf on Aug 18, 2021 6:33:04 GMT -8
I'm not laughing Joel. My 1/12th builds I make cloth and photo etch belts (usually not very well) but anything smaller gets a decal or paper cutout. My hands just can't make things that small, besides, as you said, you can't see most of them anyway!
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Post by Joel_W on Aug 18, 2021 6:47:07 GMT -8
Paul, Sorry that you took my poor excuse for satirical comment the wrong way. glad to see that you, Ben, and I are in the same camp on this one.
joel
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Post by adrian29341 on Aug 18, 2021 8:41:34 GMT -8
Paul, Sorry that you took my poor excuse for satirical comment the wrong way. glad to see that you, Ben, and I are in the same camp on this one. joel Let's call a spade a spade gentlemen ... there is nothing fun about creating 6 way harnesses - and I have only been able to create them properly after getting my head harness magnifier at the 3 drop down - even then it's an exercise in frustration a lot of the time. What I do know is that when I take my time and try to improve on the last set I did - i.e. Clean and Crisp - it sure is rewarding once complete and you go to drop the tub in and in my opinion will always take your build to another level of detail. But fun? No.
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Post by adrian29341 on Aug 18, 2021 8:43:10 GMT -8
I'm not laughing Joel. My 1/12th builds I make cloth and photo etch belts (usually not very well) but anything smaller gets a decal or paper cutout. My hands just can't make things that small, besides, as you said, you can't see most of them anyway! I've seen you pump out some pretty sweet 1/12th scale sets my friend - it's obviously easier at that scale but still yours were very clean and looked super nice man
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Post by Ben_B on Aug 18, 2021 11:57:55 GMT -8
Ben, I've stock piled seat belt PE and simple sets but threading the ribbon through those little slots is a killer for me. I've tried the cutting out of the harness assemblies but I just never got it looking good enough, with paper fibers and miss cuts. How do you go about doing it so it looks good once you're finished with the cutting part? Joel I haven't tried it, yet, but my friend just cuts around the decals and uses a Sharpie to color the edge of the paper. I assume the wet ink takes care of the fuzz on the edges of the paper. I'm thinking of trying it on the M8, so I can save my last hardware set for another project. Ben
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Post by arcticwolf on Aug 18, 2021 12:13:30 GMT -8
I'm not laughing Joel. My 1/12th builds I make cloth and photo etch belts (usually not very well) but anything smaller gets a decal or paper cutout. My hands just can't make things that small, besides, as you said, you can't see most of them anyway! I've seen you pump out some pretty sweet 1/12th scale sets my friend - it's obviously easier at that scale but still yours were very clean and looked super nice man Thank you Adrian, coming from you that's a hell of a compliment .
And Joel, there's nothing lacking when it comes to your sense of humour!
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Post by arcticwolf on Aug 18, 2021 12:20:23 GMT -8
On the subject of seat belts. Being a cheap bugger, when I found a decal set that looked especially good, I photo copied it onto a sheet of heavy gloss photo paper - about 20 of them onto one sheet.
I just cut them out and glue them to the seats in a couple of spots. Sometimes if I'm ambitious and you'll see a bit more of them, I glue on some photo etch hardware. Depends on the build. I have used the sharpie on the edges, works fine. Just don't clear coat them if you do, the ink runs.
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