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Post by Bernard Kron on Oct 2, 2020 12:03:58 GMT -8
Just posted on SA forum:
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Oct 2, 2020 13:56:35 GMT -8
Or..... Motorsport Modeling is a Great Forum, at least for People who actually Build!! I have reservations about Posting there, Inviting a bunch of guys and adding to our Board because I know for a fact there are many Non-Builders, Know it Pretty Much All's and assorted persons we may not want.. I hate to say that but...... well You All Get It!... Chris
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Post by mike_t on Oct 2, 2020 15:02:21 GMT -8
Or..... Motorsport Modeling is a Great Forum, at least for People who actually Build!! I have reservations about Posting there, Inviting a bunch of guys and adding to our Board because I know for a fact there are many Non-Builders, Know it Pretty Much All's and assorted persons we may not want.. I hate to say that but...... well You All Get It!... Chris The rivet counters are exactly why I rarely post on other forums. I belong to at least 3 others and, even though constructive criticism is a good thing, pointing out flaws all day long gets pretty old, pretty quick. Some folks can never do wrong and they are quick to jump on you when you do. Unless you're paying me to build, I don't need to hear that I have the wrong color seat belts or plug wires. I build models for me. This is a hobby, not a career. I may not be the most prolific poster on this forum but at least I'm comfortable doing so. I'm pretty sure anything I post will end up as an adult conversation instead of a mud slinging affair.
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Post by tatocorvette on Oct 2, 2020 18:38:46 GMT -8
In the Y2K year, (2000) I bought a roll of slide film and took pictures of two of my favorite models: My C5R and my 54 Corvette. I sent them to Scale Auto Enthusiast Mag with an article written for each, both printed and in a floppy disk as electronic documents. Their response? They returned them with a note "we are not accepting unsolicited material at this time". That was 20 years ago and it still hurts. Never cared for them since.
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Post by Joel_W on Oct 3, 2020 5:36:07 GMT -8
Let me just say that I hate rivet counters.
They kind of had their place in the hobby way back when models were hand designed, molds hand cut, and the accuracy at times left a lot to be desired. As a group they rarely build because no kit is accurate enough, no color paint is correct enough, no set of decals contains every single little marking, and so on. We had them at our local club, and eventually asked them to leave as they contribute nothing positive in the long run. I belong to one other modeling site, and have been there for more then 10 years. Just like here, I contribute both build blogs, posts, and get involved in positive ways. We all do. If and when one of us posts an accuracy issue or issues with a kit, it's in an informative manner to make us aware that there's issues, but rarely has anyone trashed a kit for the sake of accuracy.
I did check out the FS site years ago, and didn't much care for it. Sounds like nothing much has changed in all those years since then.
Joel
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Post by swede70 on Oct 5, 2020 18:49:57 GMT -8
Thanks for the notice in relation to the sudden evaporation of the SAE message board function...
Unless the Model Car Magazine Forum is self-funding, I'm not so certain it'll be around much longer either even if nothing has officially been said concerning such. At present the owner of that magazine is making a rather desperate bid to raise funds consistent with printing his long-delayed next issue for pursuit of at least $20K, while if this effort fails I wonder if or when the online component will fold. Most visitors/posters will likely wash ashore across the slate of Facebook scale model groups from what I can discern.
I do belong to a local club, while personally I find myself largely alone given period road racing topics and enthusiasm for such just isn't general. I do stretch myself consistent with being inquisitive and respectful towards others, doing my ambassadorial best to compliment risks taken, lessons learned, etc., so that others driving a distance and taking a chance for displaying their wares will come away with what I hope will be a good experience. I try to remember that if I were a first-timer I'd hardly want to be beaten up for displaying anything representing a deep personal investment of time and energy. Certainly I don't expect the topic focus of others to be a mirror-image of my own, while each generation and each subculture is free to pick up the hobby and make of it what they will whether it be in 1:1 or in scale.
I don't know though; i.e. at some point I fatigue of the model car club 'friends' who presumably know it all, who are so jaded as to lose interest in the passions and especially the techniques evidenced by other builders - as if the top tier builders are only there to collect accolades from those naive enough to approach them and pat their already well-patted backs. Free form custom work or retro mod efforts personally doesn't strike me as particularly disciplined either, and yet I dare not register a complaint given I'm sure to project as effete and elitist. Others rough of manner speak endlessly off the cuff, whereas I'm so guarded by way of contrast. They can be as frank (i.e coarse) as they desire, while I have to keep a great deal in reserve - ugh.
On the 'rivet-counter' front, mostly I'm o.k. with it, although when I do catch flak it's typically voiced by big-buck owners of 1:1 examples, high-dollar replicas, or someone who hasn't the knowledge, but does possess the bankroll to fund an auction purchase making them an 'instant expert'. Typically I play slightly naive around such individuals given I always want to maintain lines of communication given nothing positive strictly comes from setting bridges alight. 1:1 restoration shops and the individual behind them compete for business/clients, influence/networks, leverage/access to parts, etc. Many of these guys aren't exactly bosum friends, and hence it can be a delicate matter to maintain friendships consistent with keeping the flow of information coming.
In essence, to debut a finished project is to telegraph strongly what one believes in a thoroughly documented sense what one judges to be right - and if this ruffles feathers or illuminates the shortcomings of other efforts, it really isn't a major concern of mine. I also have to be ready to alter/update my work as new information or reasoned critical feedback is voiced or received, and sometimes this is hard. At least the dollar figure faced when correcting something isn't as dear as it might be in 1:1!
My work background is that of being an academic librarian, hence if someone needs something or some dollop of information consistent with helping them get where they need to go, then that's my role so to speak. To hold back is foreign to my nature, but the discipline (such as it is) requires awareness of personal limits and a reluctance to claim definitive knowledge when this or that claim simply cannot be supported. Trying not to be obnoxious in sum, while aiming to help if only I can see an opening then. Thanks for listening...
Mike K./Swede70
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