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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:05:19 GMT -8
I am currently working on building a R/M GT350 R as an SCCA A Sedan. I have never liked the stance of the kit so I became interested when a friend on the GPMA site started building one. I am in process of modifying the suspension to lower the car, and am looking for some decent tires. The ones in the kit are garbage. I am going to look at the tires from the Acc Miniatures GS Corvette kit tonight and see how they work.
If anyone has any other suggestions, PLEASE let me know. I will try to start a thread on the build in a few days. Allen |
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Post by afx on Sept 11, 2017 10:58:44 GMT -8
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 11, 2017 11:25:03 GMT -8
I am currently working on building a R/M GT350 R as an SCCA A Sedan. I have never liked the stance of the kit so I became interested when a friend on the GPMA site started building one. I am in process of modifying the suspension to lower the car, and am looking for some decent tires. The ones in the kit are garbage. I am going to look at the tires from the Acc Miniatures GS Corvette kit tonight and see how they work.
If anyone has any other suggestions, PLEASE let me know. I will try to start a thread on the build in a few days. Allen Not wanting to welcome you with a negative comment, but the GT350 was never legal for A-Sedan. When A-Sedan and B-Production were combined, both became GT1; but prior to that, the GT350 was always in B-Production.
Can I ask what your intent or interest is in creating an A-Sedan Mustang, which would require the notchback body style, and not the fastback?
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Post by jhedir6 on Sept 11, 2017 11:50:16 GMT -8
I am currently working on building a R/M GT350 R as an SCCA A Sedan. I have never liked the stance of the kit so I became interested when a friend on the GPMA site started building one. I am in process of modifying the suspension to lower the car, and am looking for some decent tires. The ones in the kit are garbage. I am going to look at the tires from the Acc Miniatures GS Corvette kit tonight and see how they work.
If anyone has any other suggestions, PLEASE let me know. I will try to start a thread on the build in a few days. Allen Allen, I have the exact same build on the go too....along with 99 others. I am using the front tire from Fireball Modelworks minilites (4 fronts, rears look too big for this car) I emailed Joseph and special ordered the 4 tires, the wheel back so I could have brake disks visible through the kit wheel fronts. www.fireballmodels.info/images/FMR-074.jpg Not the best pics, sorry. But you can see the wheel back behind the chrome kit wheel front. I just havent cleaned up the kit wheel yet. The rubber resin is soft and pliable and is about the same dia as the kit tire but a little wider and looks beefer under the car. I'm also using his 3259 Le Mans bowl carb on this build. If you hollow out the kit provided air funnel that sits on the stock carb it will fit over the resin one from Fireball and looks killer.  The detail on his carbs is awesome.  |
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Post by dustymojave on Sept 12, 2017 1:08:01 GMT -8
You are welcome to build your model however you wish, but for accuracy as indicated above by Oldtimer and as I said on GPMA, the fastback (or 2+2 as Ford called it in 1965 and 66) Mustang was not eligible for SCCA Sedan category. It was used only in Production Sports Car category. So you can build your model as a B/P ('P' for "Production). Or build it as a "what if" or "Phantom" racer. Or you can convert the body into a notchback for Sedan Category.
I see a lot of such confusion over which cars were eligible for which race class, often in 1:1. Magazine and internet article writers often make such mistakes as well. In the late 1960s, a guy showed up at an SCCA race at Riverside with a brand new race car built from a Shelby GT500 KR Convertible labeled "B/P". The GT500 fastback with it's big block 428 cubic inch engine was eligible for SCCA A/P. B/P Mustangs were 289 for 65-67, and in '68 through '70 302 cubic inch. But no Mustang convertible was ever approved for SCCA in any class. The guy had not thought of getting a rule book or asking any official about his race car. He was NOT a happy camper when he was told that he could fix some of the safety issues, then use it for the race driver school only and then it would not be allowed after except in Sports Racing category with the Can Am cars. He was offended that SCCA required new drivers to all attend race driver's school. He said he had drag raced and felt he was an expert race car driver. He took off early and never came around again.
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Post by Oldtimer on Sept 12, 2017 5:49:19 GMT -8
In the late 1960s, a guy showed up at an SCCA race at Riverside with a brand new race car built from a Shelby GT500 KR Convertible labeled "B/P". The GT500 fastback with it's big block 428 cubic inch engine was eligible for SCCA A/P. B/P Mustangs were 289 for 65-67, and in '68 through '70 302 cubic inch. But no Mustang convertible was ever approved for SCCA in any class. The guy had not thought of getting a rule book or asking any official about his race car. He was NOT a happy camper when he was told that he could fix some of the safety issues, then use it for the race driver school only and then it would not be allowed after except in Sports Racing category with the Can Am cars. He was offended that SCCA required new drivers to all attend race driver's school. He said he had drag raced and felt he was an expert race car driver. He took off early and never came around again. Something similar to this happened in Texas in the mid-70's. A local autocrosser (Sunbeam Tiger) decided to turn his tow vehicle (1967 Mustang Fastback - think Bullitt) into an SCCA A-Sedan. Prepared it consistent with all the Sedan rules, except the one limiting body style (and I'm not even sure if he could have built it at a GT350, maybe so, but with the significant differences between Sedan and Production rules at that time, maybe not). Took it to his first Driver's School, and got a similar story to yours. Pissed him off so much that he never came back.
You also see a lot of confusion on cars that were eligible for the Trans Am, especially the early years. I see sellers on eBay frequently referring to the 1/18 scale Lane and GMP GT350's as 'Trans Am", where clearly, in period, they were not Trans Am legal (although when SCCA went all-inclusive in Trans Am, competing with IMSA, you might have seen a few GT350's compete, but not competitively).
But, as you also indicate, to each is own, especially on customs or fantasies.
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