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Post by mickgee on Mar 7, 2020 13:20:33 GMT -8
It would almost be a crime to paint that. I understand, every single time I have this fight with myself.
The plan is, should the rest of the build go well, the dimensions and things look right....and if I have the momentum, a full body will be attempted.
The problem is though, the real car guys, the famous builders, all puttied and sanded and built up and sanded back down like crazy. Then paint. I wouldn't be able to use any filler, or the whole thing needs paint.
Tho cowl went well, the sides and belly, behind the motor, no problem. If, if, if.
If it works, there is no way paint goes on this one. Just the chassis.
Thank you for the support!
Mike..
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Post by mickgee on Mar 12, 2020 14:29:46 GMT -8
UPDATE; a few needful things have been accomplished.
Fuel tank is done, and the supportive brackets attached to the chassis. This time, the fuel delivery and return will be solid tube and not any floating line setup. I like the clean look of small pipes running from tank to pump, hence setting the tank a bit further away from motor, in my opinion makes for a nice and clean front end.
Added also this week, some aluminum-looking paint for the zoomies, rear disc brakes, shortened rear axle housing, and a few minor adjustments elsewhere. The car has been stretched from a scale 145" to 150". The wheelbase is exact. Also, a note of interest with scale building, the issue with the rearmost zoomie pipe. At 23.5 " out, meaning the motor backplate/firewall to rear axle, a tall tire vintage Top Fuel car would need to have the rearmost tube shortened vertically to get the 3" clearance to the slick surface at the area. With a fuel injected motor, a smaller diameter tire could be used to get more spin at launch, and the zoomie pipe clearance was not such an issue. Still, the lower edge of the zoomie pipe has to be trimmed vertically to make for true tire clearance.
Sure, this is just modeling bench-racer talk.....just again I'm amazed at what a true scale model, according to real car plans, happens. Scale is fun, and I'm really enthused about it....
Thanks for your interest, still building this one.
Body work coming up.
Mike..
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Post by afx on Mar 13, 2020 2:26:59 GMT -8
Looks great Mike.
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Post by 2lapsdown on Mar 13, 2020 3:47:12 GMT -8
Looks like a big piece of jewelry, the craftsmanship is true eye candy. Thanks for sharing the process
John
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Post by mickgee on Mar 13, 2020 22:37:41 GMT -8
afx and John, thanks guys, makes me happy.
After sitting around and being constantly manipulated, the brass starts to get dirty looking, what a shame. Just a short shot of a strong household cleaner and 10 seconds with a toothbrush under running water and the make up is good to go for a photo session. I like the shiny look too.
I recently mentioned building a car completely from brass and leaving it that way on another site, and the Admin says I can't post it there..... He writes, "no real car was made out of brass, we only want correctly built models here". Strange however, nowhere can a sheetmetal body on chrom/moly chassis be seen there. Some rubber tires though.
Your appreciation of some brass here is appreciated. Fact is, paint is not a strength of mine.
Today the aluminum body panels are on the agenda.
Mike..
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Post by tatocorvette on Mar 14, 2020 5:08:00 GMT -8
Huh? Tell him no real car was made out of styrene either, yet some build unpainted box stock. This is beautiful work! By the way, you have inspired me to take out my soldering iron and some brass. It's been over a decade since I did some minor brass soldering for models and I want to get back to it.
Thanks,
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Post by arcticwolf on Mar 14, 2020 7:25:59 GMT -8
I know what I'd tell the admin on the other site.
Personally I would clear coat the brass and be proud of it.
Do you build Swiss watches in your spare time?
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Mar 14, 2020 7:42:55 GMT -8
There was so many Automotive manufacturers that made cars from Brass its incredible. So many they named an Era " The Brass Era" 1890 to 1919 , My father was a noted restorer of Ford Model T and spent so much time fabricating, Forming, Welding and Finishing Brass parts it was unbelievable. link to Brass Era Auto manufacturers www.antiquecar.com/history/brass.php People need to get it right before they make ignorant statements... Chris
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Post by mickgee on Mar 14, 2020 8:50:57 GMT -8
Well, concerning "the other site" and the Admin, for his defense I'll have to add that the section was Drag Racing Forum, and that he clearly stated to his knowledge there was never a brass chassis or brass body car at the tree. For this reason, he stated he would not accept a brass car as a drag model, he only wants correct and accurate drag models models only. I thought it was really kind of an oddball statement.
Sure, I could've have added, that styrene models were then likely I suppose, to stage at the line....but I decided then just to move on. I quit the FB group, end of the story. I don't really want to get banned from another forum because of stating my opinion on something. lol. I'd like to hold on to this forum here, I like the smooth sailing here, and good, knowledgeable modelers.
Every time a brass chassis is on the bench, the "clearing and leaving it brass" always crosses my mind. Problem with this is the solder used is silvery and it can be seen. A couple times the brass chassis got a high shine, it looked like gold plating! Maybe the next build....just this one gets a painted chassis again, but the aluminum will remain nice and clean with a satin smooth finish....oh yeah!
The side panels are hanging already and the cowl has been lowered a little at the slicks. I'm happy. With the seat in, the body is finished for all intents.
Next is a steering gear and a steering handle of some description. I like those that are extended and have two handles.
Things are going quickly now.
Thanks fellows for the feedback, Mike..
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Post by mickgee on Mar 14, 2020 9:09:15 GMT -8
Huh? Tell him no real car was made out of styrene either, yet some build unpainted box stock. This is beautiful work! By the way, you have inspired me to take out my soldering iron and some brass. It's been over a decade since I did some minor brass soldering for models and I want to get back to it. Thanks, Hey Ismael! Man, this is great news, I'm thrilled that you're getting back at soldering....wonderful. I've seen some older type Indy cars here on the forum that are screaming for a brass chassis and brass suspension. Great stuff, have fun getting small blisters again....lol.
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Post by mickgee on Mar 14, 2020 9:11:42 GMT -8
I know what I'd tell the admin on the other site. Personally I would clear coat the brass and be proud of it. Do you build Swiss watches in your spare time? No, no Swiss watches....just other small precision and metal/ceramic constructions. Dental. This would cover my metal background....
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Post by mickgee on Mar 16, 2020 4:02:00 GMT -8
UPDATE: The body is finished.
Things were going well this weekend, so this step was pushed forward to get it done.
The panels fit well, but since the frame needs painting still, the panels are secured with a small strip of tape for now.
Actually, it's kind of fun not to be worried about painting this time around. lol.
Mike..
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Post by mickgee on Mar 17, 2020 14:17:05 GMT -8
UPDATE; Steering gear assembly
Fact is, at 69yrs., I've reached a point that what's unseen later on doesn't have to be good or correct, it just has to work.
The steering assembly, which is the real reason why I just don't feel like doing more than necessary a prime example. The steering wheel is the 2nd attempt, paint covers up glitches very well. It will work though.
This car is almost finished, seat belt connections to the chassis, chute rack out back and a push bar. A day's work. Just I'm in no hurry, as we have a direct port fuel injection setup that I really want to make nice.
Mike..
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Post by afx on Mar 18, 2020 2:28:18 GMT -8
No need to rush, enjoy the process. More time to spend with this great project.
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Post by mickgee on Mar 19, 2020 5:15:16 GMT -8
Thanks JC, exactly correct. I'm in no rush to finish this one. Everyday a little bit in the afternoon and evening while listening to music or TV documentaries.
Yesterday the chassis got some paint, it's finished. Push bar, chute rack and a tab on the chassis for steering rod soldered on. Next up is to start building the motor.
I'm always kind of saddened when a project ends though.
Mike..
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