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Post by pnance26 on Mar 14, 2023 12:01:47 GMT -8
Also, in using just the four decals on the electrical box and the cylinder heads, I have noticed that MFH decals are VERY VERY thick. Any suggestions on a substitute? Michael at IndyCals doesn't do this car so does anyone have an alternative decal in 1/12th?
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Post by pnance26 on Mar 15, 2023 6:22:24 GMT -8
Can someone here smarter than I tell me what's the purpose of the circled part? They don't attach to anything that I can see. Curious minds want to know...
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Post by tatocorvette on Mar 15, 2023 7:18:18 GMT -8
I am by no means an expert, but could those be throttle return springs? Is there any visible throttle linkages?
Thanks, Ismael
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Post by pnance26 on Mar 15, 2023 7:56:17 GMT -8
I am by no means an expert, but could those be throttle return springs? Is there any visible throttle linkages? Thanks, Ismael Ismael, Not that I can see in the instructions... and I have spent hours looking at them! They are on the opposite end of the engine from where the throttle linkage is located behind the main electrical box. At least, I think that is the throttle linkage...
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Post by gorf on Mar 15, 2023 8:04:53 GMT -8
They are throttle slide return springs. Steve
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Post by gorf on Mar 15, 2023 8:18:56 GMT -8
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Post by pnance26 on Mar 16, 2023 5:28:34 GMT -8
Thank you! I get it now, how it all works! I knew I could count on the group to provide an explanation. It's not critical to building the kit but it does help in my overall knowledge. I'll take Mighty Cosworth engines for $800, Alex...
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Post by pnance26 on Mar 17, 2023 9:53:49 GMT -8
Are there more of such exploded views of things at Macs? Especially the DFV Cosworth engine? I have some other questions about it and think that more illustrations would be beneficial. Man, I wish I had known about this AM kit from Mac's... makes me want to do another Cosworth just to build those intake manifolds accurately. Mine are already glued in place. NUTS!
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Post by pnance26 on Mar 29, 2023 6:21:10 GMT -8
I just so hate myself and my impatience, especially in cold weather. I don't want to slow down when just getting this far is about 24 hours of steady work if not more. But there are SOOOOOO many mistakes. And yes, I have been slagged off on a FAceBook site because "For the sake of accuracy, during that era, DFV did not have yellow spark plug wires" and "I am sure MFH supplied the correct black wire". Well, you know what? I made that choice because I WANTED A LITTLE COLOR CONTRAST! It's my build and I am sure that any expert will be correct but who cares? I know I don't. So slag away if you must. I am still learning about how complex and unforgiving these kits can be... and it still doesn't deter me. Fire away! I am just building for the skill improvement and for me. And I appreciate everyone's input. Believe me, I do but if "incorrect" plug wire color is so damned important, then I guess I will always be a second rate hack. But I like it! Flame away, I can take it from friends.
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Post by tatocorvette on Mar 29, 2023 9:20:01 GMT -8
Simple: Your car, your rules. What I have done in these cases, if the car is supposed to be an accurate historical representation (like I did when I built the Dan Gurney's Indy Eagle), is to state upfront before showing the pictures about any "deviations". In that case, I wrote: "I took an artistic license and did the seatbelts in red as opposed to the correct black so they wouldn't disappear from view in the dark cockpit." This essentially says "I know and I don't care. It is MY car" while at the same time shows you do know your subject, it was a conscious personal decision while not deviating that much from the original. I mean, It is not that you are painting Niki Lauda's championship car fluorescent green with sky blue stripes and swapped the engine with a small block Chevy and still call it Lauda's championship car. Unless you are building a model as commissioned work for somebody, in which case you follow your customer's requirements, just follow your heart and build for yourself. I still plan to someday build a gloss pearl red and chrome wheels pimped WWII Sherman tank with a chrome gun just for the pure pleasure of seeing the rivet counters faint. In summary, you can say "I took a conscious artistic license and did the plug wires in yellow and sanded the FORD scripts on the valve covers for a better visual impact. After all, it is my car and that's how I'd restore it if I had it" Depending on the animosity you can end with "Go ahead, sue me!" Thanks, Ismael
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Post by pnance26 on Mar 29, 2023 16:01:18 GMT -8
Simple: Your car, your rules. What I have done in these cases, if the car is supposed to be an accurate historical representation (like I did when I built the Dan Gurney's Indy Eagle), is to state upfront before showing the pictures about any "deviations". In that case, I wrote: "I took an artistic license and did the seatbelts in red as opposed to the correct black so they wouldn't disappear from view in the dark cockpit." This essentially says "I know and I don't care. It is MY car" while at the same time shows you do know your subject, it was a conscious personal decision while not deviating that much from the original. I mean, It is not that you are painting Niki Lauda's championship car fluorescent green with sky blue stripes and swapped the engine with a small block Chevy and still call it Lauda's championship car. Unless you are building a model as commissioned work for somebody, in which case you follow your customer's requirements, just follow your heart and build for yourself. I still plan to someday build a gloss pearl red and chrome wheels pimped WWII Sherman tank with a chrome gun just for the pure pleasure of seeing the rivet counters faint. In summary, you can say "I took a conscious artistic license and did the plug wires in yellow and sanded the FORD scripts on the valve covers for a better visual impact. After all, it is my car and that's how I'd restore it if I had it" Depending on the animosity you can end with "Go ahead, sue me!" Thanks, Ismael Thanks for your reply, Ismael. That is basically my train of thought. And I notice that you kindly did not mention any scrutiny of the photos provided. You are quite correct. But I just took down the post and resolved to never post there again since it is full of rivet counters and spark plug wire sparkies... I don't need the headache! But I appreciate the support! And I am quite sure I will never be doing a commissioned build nor a "replica" nor an "historical representation". Just never gonna happen at this age! Thanks again!
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Post by Joel_W on Mar 30, 2023 4:48:50 GMT -8
Looking forward to following your build. So far I'd say that you're doing an excellent job on the Ford engine.
joel
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Post by pnance26 on Mar 30, 2023 5:29:28 GMT -8
Looking forward to following your build. So far I'd say that you're doing an excellent job on the Ford engine. joel Hi Joel! Was wondering where you had gotten off to lately! Good to see you. And thanks! I could improve by 50% and still not be there! But you are very kind to compliment the work! What are you building these days?
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Mar 30, 2023 5:38:20 GMT -8
I wouldnt worry about the return springs, MFH actually gives you flat 2d photoetch springs that are a bitch to put on and then dont really look that realistic. I have used Red, Orange, Yellow, Blue and Black plug wire on DFV engines over the years I think the Black ones are boring and it's Tuff if someone doesnt like the color I use, some times the effect is more dramatic than Black! even at this magnification can you really see those springs? and it took me about 4 hours to put them on.. This is a 1/20 scale DFV engine.. Chris
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Post by pnance26 on Mar 30, 2023 8:56:00 GMT -8
Chris, in the 1/12th, they give you the actual throttle return springs that you have to attach and they do look pretty cool. You get a pretty good look at them in this photo. they are 8 mm in length. And yeah, I agree about the plug wires. It would have all looked the same... black heads, black ignition wires, black fuel lines... black, black, black. I wanted some color.
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