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Post by starfighterace on Jan 11, 2021 12:23:02 GMT -8
Solder is your friend. Detail Master also makes an aluminum rod in .01, .015, .2, .25, and .3 widths that work well for those applications. They also made the fittings to go with them.
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Post by Joel_W on Jan 11, 2021 13:34:51 GMT -8
Patrick,
Still looks like a ton of detailing, but from what I've seen of your work, you'll do a A-1 job of it. As for the duplication, I'd go for it as I can't see Trumpeter spending the time to duplicate it, if it wasn't there on the real cars.
Joel
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Post by pnance26 on Jan 11, 2021 16:33:18 GMT -8
Solder is your friend. Detail Master also makes an aluminum rod in .01, .015, .2, .25, and .3 widths that work well for those applications. They also made the fittings to go with them. Excellent! Robert told me to figure out the braided diameter first then the fittings will be easy |
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Post by 4wheels on Jan 11, 2021 17:07:14 GMT -8
OK, here's some more things to think about regarding the fuel pumps. The pic on page 129 of the Holman/Moody book clearly shows ONE fuel pump on the right side. The IMC Ford GT kits have two pumps each side. The MPC MkIV kit has NO fuel pumps that I can find. So until I find more period pics, I'm at a loss as to the correct number and location. Best guess?
Brian
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Post by mustangrex on Jan 11, 2021 17:18:51 GMT -8
I will look at my old pictures I have. They are from the Glen GT40 reunion in 1989 and I may have some engine pictures. I know it’s not from 1966 but I assume they would be close. I do not have an active photo sharing site so I would have to send them via email.
Rex Turner
rturner72@verizon.net
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Post by pnance26 on Jan 11, 2021 17:41:33 GMT -8
I will look at my old pictures I have. They are from the Glen GT40 reunion in 1989 and I may have some engine pictures. I know it’s not from 1966 but I assume they would be close. I do not have an active photo sharing site so I would have to send them via email. Rex Turner rturner72@verizon.net send away to pnance26@yahoo.com Well, guys, thanks to your ingenuity, I have now have plenty of orange spark plug wire... in two different shades actually! Next, on to the wire looms. They should not be too hard to make out of flat and square stock with some reshaping! Oh I love getting back into this! The fun is in figuring it out with the help of friends! |
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Post by pnance26 on Jan 13, 2021 14:40:08 GMT -8
Well, frack.
One of my coworkers quit and so now I have four more shifts this month... no build time now for at least another week!
And I just got all the stuff in and organized.
Poop!
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Post by Joel_W on Jan 13, 2021 14:41:22 GMT -8
Patrick,
Just gives you more time to mentally plan out your build.
Joel
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Post by tartan54 on Jan 13, 2021 15:25:36 GMT -8
Hi Patrick, I'm following your build with great interest as I have the same kit and planning to to do chassis P1031 from Le Mans '66 so I've been collecting pictures and books. Looking at what I have of the right side of the engine bay it looks like Trumpeter/Magnifier have got their details wrong there, I cannot see evidence of pumps that side.    I realise a couple of these cars are in build but there doesn't look to be any plumbing in place and why leave one side when the other is done?  In the aircraft and naval model world Trumpeter have a very variable accuracy record with A grade and definite B grade design teams, in all honesty B grade is their norm. My opinion of the GT40 kit is that it has a body by the A team, an engine and gearbox by the apprentices in the B team with the suspension designed by job applicants for the C team! LOL Anyway good luck with the fuel pump plumbing. Dave |
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Post by pnance26 on Jan 13, 2021 15:37:47 GMT -8
It would make sense to only have them on one side.
I mean seriously, why would you have four primary and two backup fuel pumps?
I’ll have to see if I can see anything different! Maybe we can keep some sanity in t hi s build!
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Post by 4wheels on Jan 13, 2021 18:00:04 GMT -8
Just remember, the pics above are of restored cars, including one that is obviously under construction and incomplete. The PERIOD picture in the H/M book clearly shows a pump on the right side.
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Post by darylh on Jan 14, 2021 5:07:48 GMT -8
While reviewing your engine pics I see a possible problem. The 1966 GT Mk.II used the single carb while the 1967 Mk.IIb used dual carbs some Mk.IIbs were run at Lemans in '67 as back ups to the Mk.IVs. So period pics with the dual quads won't really apply to '66.
I'm looking at doing the Gold Mk.IIb which was the same chassis as the Gold MK.II of '66 but with all the detail changes for '67
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Post by Joel_W on Jan 14, 2021 5:21:42 GMT -8
I just love these type of 1/12 scale builds when you guys that specialize in this scale and all have superior modeling skills, get into these type of discussions to solve detail issues that need to be added, corrected, moved, or deleted.
I'm certainly looking forward to Patrick's build, and now each of yours when they do take place. For me, I've got two of the Fujimi 1/24 scale GT40 series in my stash, with 1 or 2 more to go. Each will be OOB with some enhancing details. Nothing really exciting modeling wise, but then again that really describes me to a "T" these days.
Joel
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Post by Chris K. Hale on Jan 14, 2021 6:44:29 GMT -8
  as you can see the 1966 Ford GT40 Chassis #1046 Car # 2 , the Lemans winning car had no pump on the right side. I went through some 2,000 pics after the question came up because I too thought I had seen a set of additional pumps on the right, I did find a couple of pics that had a large cylindrical Fuel filter on that side but it was not a pump. For those building the #2 chassis 1046 car from the Trumpeter kit I dont think the addition of a second pump to be accurate.. Check gt40s.net if you have a different chassis number you are building . Chris |
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Post by tartan54 on Jan 14, 2021 7:26:18 GMT -8
I think Chris has nailed it, I was aware that the pictures I sent were restored vehicles and that the gold car P1016 had been converted to a MKIIb in 1967 then restored back to nearer MKII 1966 standard but some MKIIb items remain. Chassis P1046's rebuild was supposed to be meticulous in 1966 standard detail so should be a better go by. Anyway I dug through and found a couple of period shots, this is the Peugeot garage taken over by Ford in '66 with the #4 (Hawkins/Donahue) car in the forground -  Zooming in on the area shows something there but it doesn't look like a pump -  Go back a year to 1965 -  Different arrangement on the rear bulkhead and a close up shows a pump like object -  Anyway this is all an excuse to make Patricks thread a comprehensive place to find MKII GT40 information!  Dave |
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