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Post by 2whl on Aug 13, 2023 16:34:33 GMT -8
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Post by chrissmith on Aug 13, 2023 16:38:48 GMT -8
I spent almost the whole day applying decals 🤪🤪🤪
I’ll put a couple coats of clear over these and then I’ll be ready for some serious assembling 😁
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Post by pnance26 on Aug 13, 2023 18:19:55 GMT -8
I spent almost the whole day applying decals 🤪🤪🤪 I’ll put a couple coats of clear over these and then I’ll be ready for some serious assembling 😁 [br I know the orange is TS-56. Did you use Tamiya white? What clear are you going to use? |
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Post by chrissmith on Aug 13, 2023 20:00:25 GMT -8
I spent almost the whole day applying decals 🤪🤪🤪 I’ll put a couple coats of clear over these and then I’ll be ready for some serious assembling 😁 [br I know the orange is TS-56. Did you use Tamiya white? What clear are you going to use? I specifically use Gravity Colors Titanium White Gravity Gloss Clear |
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Post by pnance26 on Aug 14, 2023 7:38:51 GMT -8
Thanks!
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Post by Joel_W on Aug 15, 2023 15:29:16 GMT -8
I gather since you're going to use Gravity gloss clear, that it's their 2K Urethane.
joel
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Post by pnance26 on Aug 16, 2023 5:10:20 GMT -8
I gather since you're going to use Gravity gloss clear, that it's their 2K Urethane. joel What exactly is the 2k in 2k urethane? I keep seeing it but don't understand... |
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Post by Joel_W on Aug 16, 2023 5:22:09 GMT -8
Patrick,
I bought last year the 3 part set from Gravity for 2K finishes, but haven't used it due to health issue concerns. Bottle #1 is Gloss Clear Urethane, bottle #2 is an activator, bottle #3 is their thinner. Their mix is 3:1:1 in the order that I listed the bottles.
joel
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Post by chrissmith on Aug 16, 2023 17:47:16 GMT -8
I gather since you're going to use Gravity gloss clear, that it's their 2K Urethane. joel Yes sir. I followed the directions and it comes out really well. I also use their polishing kit after trying it a few kits back. I do use meguiars wax when everything is finished 😉 |
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Post by mike_t on Aug 17, 2023 7:41:04 GMT -8
I gather since you're going to use Gravity gloss clear, that it's their 2K Urethane. joel What exactly is the 2k in 2k urethane? I keep seeing it but don't understand... 1K Coating vs. 2K Coatings There is often confusion and misuse of terms when it comes to describing automotive coatings. Not only do some people not know the difference between 1K and 2K paints, but some people confuse single stage paints and two stage paints with 1K and 2K. Here are some brief definitions that we hope will dispel the confusion. 1K Coatings This is a term used to describe a coating that does not require a hardener, catalyst or activator. This term can be used to describe “single-component” paints that dry in the air (whether latex house paint, or old school lacquer) and nearly all aerosol spray can paints. The 1 Shot sign painters pinstriping paint we sell is 1K enamel. 2K Coatings This describes a coating that needs to be mixed with a hardener, catalyst or activator. Once it hardens it is much less susceptible to damage from chemicals, weather, or UV rays. 2K paints includes all of our Eastwood automotive single stage and base coat/clear coat finishes, “two-component” paints and other urethane finishes. Eastwood's 2K Aero-Spray paints combine the convenience of an aerosol and the durability of a 2K paint (the activator is in a separate compartment). NOTE: Typically the term "catalyst" (as in epoxy catalyst) is used separately from the terms "activator" and "hardener" because a catalyst does not have isocyanates. Single Stage Paints Used to describe a coating that does not require a clear top coat. A single-stage coating can be 1K or 2K, with or without a catalyst, hardener or activator. Plus, a clear top coat may be used in many cases for enhanced durability or depth. You can still get many nice finishes in single stage paints like this Two Stage Paints Describes a coating system that requires both base and clear coats. This is more commonly referred to as "basecoat/clearcoat" or "BC/CC". Most base coat/clear coat systems are also 2K coatings, but not all of them are. The base coat provides the color and coverage, while the clear coat, like the Eastwood Premium Show Clear, provides all the gloss and protection. |
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Post by pnance26 on Aug 17, 2023 16:37:56 GMT -8
Thank you, Mike for taking the time to explain all that. I am just a simple person who grew up on Testor's enamels and then, when I returned to model building in the 80s, Tamiya water based paints were available in jars and rattle cans. I can adequately use an airbrush but sometimes, especially reading about weathering and base painting (like aircraft guys) and this and that, I get very confused and see where people like me get discouraged. I just want something that won't eat my decals and won't yellow in 20 years like the finish on an Alfa Romeo 179 that I built was back when as my very first project back. It was a Protar 1/12th kit in Marlboro colors and had yellowed so much that two years ago, I dismantled the kit and stripped it. And then I got involved with MFH. Now, I want that shiny deep, glossy finish that was so prevalent until about 10 years ago when Ferrari started using a matte red finish.
I do appreciate you attempts to explain this stuff to me.
Am I to assume that with a two part coating you mix the two together, then airbrush, as Joel described?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by Joel_W on Aug 18, 2023 16:22:17 GMT -8
Mike,
Thanks for all that info, but like Patrick I'm still a little confused. I use as a gloss or Matt Clearcoat, mostly Lacquers: Tamiya and Mr. Color thinned with Mr. Leveling thinner #400. So from what you said it's a single stage clear, as most lacquer and Acrylic paints are. But if a base color coat is needed like Silver as an example, then it's a two stage color paint regardless of it being Lacquer, enamel, or Acrylic?
I've seen some paint companies like Gravity list 1K clear gloss coats, but don't recommend them other then for small specific jobs rather stating that 2k is what one should use. And now just to add to the confusion, ScaleFinishes has dropped their Super clear Gloss, and 500 Clear Gloss for something called Honey Gloss. I'm not sure if it's a lacquer or enamel base.
As Patrick said, this is a topic that just confuses the heck out of me.
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Post by 2whl on Aug 21, 2023 16:06:06 GMT -8
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Post by chrissmith on Aug 21, 2023 16:25:36 GMT -8
As you can see, I have been a busy little camper😁
After 3 coats of clear to seal the decals, I finally got to some serious building! There doesn’t look like much , but the parts bags are getting smaller. Thanks for looking
Chris
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Post by Joel_W on Aug 21, 2023 19:26:41 GMT -8
Chris,
Egads!! The tub really looks fantastic, especially the back of the gauges with all that wiring. .
joel
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